Electric Cars and the Prepper

The very first electric cars were built as early as the 1830s. Yes, that was 1830s, that’s not a typo. Not much happened with them, because of a lack of commercial electricity. It wasn’t until the 1870s that they really hit the streets. Basically, the idea of electric cars has existed longer than gas-powered ones. Yet the electric car crowd acts like it’s something new. What’s new isn’t the idea of electric cars, but the push to force everyone to switch over from internal combustion engines.

I’ve seen people raise the question about whether we, as preppers, should consider an electric car as a bug out vehicle or an alternative means of transportation in a post-disaster world, where gasoline might be hard to come by. But does that really make sense?

Before getting into that, let me say that I like the idea of electric cars, at least in theory. I remember drawing pictures of solar-powered cars as a kid. But I have to say that the technology we have available to us today isn’t anywhere near as great as the technology in those pictures. Electric cars are expensive to buy and expensive to maintain; and the range you get out of a charge hasn’t come close to what the proponents of electric cars have promised us.

Electric Cars and Bugging Out

The idea of bugging out in an electric car is scary to me. If there’s one thing I want, when I’m bugging out, it’s range. I’m not even comfortable with the range of a gas-burner, let alone electric cars. As I see it, it’s unlikely that any of us can succeed in bugging out with a single tank of gas, especially if a lot of others are bugging out at the same time. Just where are we going to find gas to refill? As we’ve all seen, when there are general evacuations for hurricanes and other disasters, the gas stations quickly run out.

Finding electric car charging stations is even worse. People who try and travel in electric cars find that charging stations are few and far between. The Energy Secretary, Jennifer Granholm, tried taking a trip in an electric car recently, as a publicity stunt to promote electric cars, and ended up with bad press. Not only did she have trouble finding places to recharge, but ended up in a confrontation where a family called the police on her, because staff members had driven ahead to try and reserve a charging station for her.

We could easily make fun of the fact that the staffers in this case were driving gas-burning cars, in order to provide “support” to the Energy Secretary’s publicity stunt. Somehow that has managed to escape the attention of reporters though.

Of course, if the power goes out due to a disaster, that means those charging stations will too. I suppose electric cars could be recharged off a gas or diesel generator; but doesn’t that eliminate the whole “benefit” of buying an electric car in the first place? The same gasoline that’s needed to recharge one electric car could probably pump gas for a whole lot of gas-burners.

Range has always been an issue with electric cars, because of the massive amount of electricity they need to store and the weight of the batteries to store all that electricity. Some progress has been made by using regenerative braking, where braking the vehicle produces electricity to recharge the batteries. But while that does extend the range of electric vehicles in the city, there’s just not much need for braking on an interstate highway. This makes it so the range of these vehicles is much worse on the open road, than it is in town.

Finally, weight is a real issue to contend with. Most preppers pick trucks and SUVs for their bug out vehicles, so that they’ll have the space and weight-carrying capacity needed for their gear and supplies. But all that weight has a negative impact on range; to the point where one EV truck owner couldn’t make it 100 miles in his new truck, pulling a trailer. Oops.

Electric Cars in a Post-Disaster World

While electric cars don’t look like they will be any good in a bug out, does that mean they won’t be good for anything? What about using those cars for transportation, when gasoline is hard to come by?

Many of us have invested in at least some solar power, just to make sure that we have at least some electricity available to us in the event of a disaster that takes the grid down. But does that mean we’ll have enough to charge an electric car too? Probably not.

I got a bid once on having solar power installed on my house. For enough solar panels to provide me with my “average” usage, I was going to have to pay $60,000. Needless to say, I didn’t spend that money, as I couldn’t afford that big an investment, even if I did believe the salesman, who promised that it would pay for itself with my electricity savings (I wasn’t so sure about that).

Here’s the thing though, even that wouldn’t have provided me enough electricity to charge an EV, if they could have found enough space on my roof for that many panels. That was just for the house. Since EVs get 3 to 4 miles per kilowatt-hour (kWh), according to JD Powers, recharging after only driving 100 miles would work out to 25 to 33 kWh. Using solar panels that produce 250 watts per hour, it would require 100 to 130 solar panels to recharge that car in one day. (A solar panel only puts out full power for about 8 hours per day).

By the way, a quick calculation on the cost of those solar panels, just buying them, not including installation, works out to about $30,000 retail for 100 panels.

Looking at that another way, enough solar panels to provide that 25 kWh would require 1,650 sq. ft. of south-facing roof. To have enough solar panels to recharge 33 kWh would require 2,145 sq. ft. of south-facing roof. If the panels aren’t mounted on a south-facing roof, at the correct angle to maximize their efficiency (they rarely are mounted at that angle), they won’t produce enough power to fully charge the EV.

While I suppose this doesn’t totally rule out the idea of using an EV and charging it from solar power, it makes it rather unrealistic for most of us. Unless you’re made a fortune in Silicon Valley and have the money to buy your own island in the Pacific Northwest, I doubt you can afford doing that. For that matter, I doubt you have enough south-facing roof space for all those solar panels. Oh, and if you do own an island in the Pacific Northwest, you’re going to need more panels, thanks to the rain.

Electric Cars to Help you Prep

The third area where we might want to consider using an electric car is now, while things are more or less fine and we are preparing for a coming disaster. In that scenario, an EV might actually be useful. The more traditional view of EVs is as an around-town commuter and errand car. They work well for that and are even cheaper per mile to drive, than a typical gas-burning vehicle. Using the same figures I used to calculate how many solar panels would be needed, it costs somewhere between $10 and $14 to charge an electric vehicle for 300 miles of use, which is about how many miles most of us get before filling our car’s gas tank.

This doesn’t take into account the cost of the car; and as we all know EVs are more expensive than comparable gas-burners. So, in order to gain this savings, you’re going to need to buy one of the lower cost electric cars, not Tesla’s luxury model. According to Car and Driver, the lowest cost EVs out there are the Chevrolet Bolt and Nissan Leaf. It looks like there are a total of 10 models available for less than $43,000.

The question becomes – do you want to buy an electric car? Personally, I can’t see a whole lot of reason to do so, but you might see things differently. This is a very personal decision, regardless of all the politics that are pushing the issue around. From where I sit, it looks like most of the people who are buying these cars are on the political left, which means that they are unlikely to be preppers.

Nobody should consider buying an EV as their only vehicle, especially if they are a prepper. This is still new technology and it has lots of problems that still need to be ironed out. One of those problems is the high cost of maintenance, which can’t be done by the typical mechanic. You can’t even have your local mechanic replace light bulbs, let alone doing something involving the battery or drive motors.

A Word of Advice

Perhaps as the technology improves, EVs will become more useful. But I think they’ll be shoved down our throats before that happens. With that being the case, I would recommend that you keep one old, but simple car around, even if it’s up on blocks in your backyard, so that you’ll have something to drive, when everyone else is wondering how they’ll charge their EV during a power outage. Considering the high probability of the power going out in any disaster, that old gas-burner might end up being worth its weight in gold.

Written by

Bill White is the author of Conquering the Coming Collapse, and a former Army officer, manufacturing engineer and business manager. More recently, he left the business world to work as a cross-cultural missionary on the Mexico border. Bill has been a survivalist since the 1970s, when the nation was in the latter days of the Cold War. He had determined to head into the Colorado Rockies, should Washington ever decide to push the button. While those days have passed, the knowledge Bill gained during that time hasn’t. He now works to educate others on the risks that exist in our society and how to prepare to meet them. You can send Bill a message at editor [at] survivopedia.com.

Latest comments
  • EVs batteries connected to home solar should be an option. Bank solar at home in car’s batteries as secondary back up power if no sun and low charge go to charging station to top off

  • EVs are the future! We will adapt! I’m a prepper and all but no way I’m selling my Tesla!!!!

  • Sorry, but for me, EV for shtf is no-no

    • What will you do if you run out of fuel? It’s still easier to make electricity than fuel

      • Not necessarily, as there’s people that have ran diesel engines off used cooking oil. And even used motor oil, although it’s usually blended with diesel fuel. And there are bi-fuel vehicles that can run off gasoline or propane, and in some cases with greater range than single fuel vehicles.

        Ironically, the easiest and cheapest way (at least as far as the initial investmen goes) to make electricity is by using a generator that runs off of some form of fossil fuels.

        And like the story says, it would take more solar panels to charge an EV and power a home, than what it would take to JUST power a home. This is an even larger initial investment to charge an EV. Then there’s night, when they don’t produce, precipitation and clouds that reduce output during the day, and winter days when there’s fewer daylight hours and less solar energy due to the sun being closer to the horizon. All of that needs to be taken into account.

        Then there’s the fact that I’ve stored non-ethanol gasoline with fuel stabilizer for 2 years, and when I used that fuel and replaced it, it was still good, and powered my 1995 Ford truck fine (which had dual tanks and a 500 mile range). I can (and often have) carry extra fuel cheaper and easier than an EV can carry a backup generator plus fuel, and the fuel for the fueled vehicle will weigh a lot less and take up less cargo room. In fact, just carrying extra fuel that weighs as much as the generator its fuel for charging an EV would give the fueled vehicle significantly more range. And if I did need to use that extra fuel, refueling is way quicker than charging an EV.

        Then there’s the chances of an EMP event. I have a 1960 Willys Jeep that wouldn’t be affected by an EMP. Yes, there’s older vehicles that wouldn’t be affected by an EMP event, but I know of no EV that wouldn’t be affected.

        An EMP would also affect solar panels and the inverters needed to change the solar panel DC to AC needed for a house. So if depending on both an EV and solar to charge it, you would lose both. For that matter, an EMP would affect power plants, switchyards, and substations. So there goes another source for charging an EV.

        By the way, I have about 3 decades direct experience in industry with electricity and electric power production, having worked directly with a few different forms of electric power generation. And yes, this includes a solar farm at the power plant I currently work at, with construction of another solar farm to be started soon, and a battery storage project under construction. If it weren’t for government mandates forcing “carbon free” power production and subsidies/tax breaks for adding solar, we wouldn’t be using solar, or adding solar plus storage. Although solar can have advantages for certain uses, it’s not as good as the media would have you believe.

  • I would buy a mule before I buy an EV. Mules don’t run on either electricity or “fossil fuel”. But that might not be a good option for city folks.

  • A wood gasifier isn’t hard to build and the convetsion of a gasoline engine to run on it is easy. Wood or other combustable biomass is everywhere.

  • A fully prepared prepper will have a team of mules , broke to ride or harness. They will eat stuff a horse won’t touch, are sure footed in rough terrain, and will pull more weight when hitched to a modern wagon.

  • Bill, you need to redo your math on number of panels as you forgot to multiply by number of hours of sun. Typical estimate is 5 hours, although where you live it could be 6+. With 100 250W panels and 5 hours of sun, theoretical production is 125 kWH with likely production in the. 80-100 kWH range. I have one customer with 12 kW of panels that produces 50-65 kWH per day.

    FYI, most solar panels are now in the 400-500W range.

  • just as simple to make biodiesel, or use cng – better for the ‘environment too – as horsing around with inefficient, expensive, unreliable solar panels and wind gens. i’ve done it ALL here in windy, sunny w. Tx. and i’m a degreed environmental geoscientist / hydrogeologist to boot.

  • In the event of an EMP attack, the EVs can be parked (towed or pushed) beside all newer gas burners. No easy answer. I don’t have a problem with EVs, if that’s how you wish to spend your money, unless the Federal government or environmental cultists try to force them on us.

  • Our cars in Brazil are powered with gas and/or alcohol. If the worst hapens I can make my own alcohol and never will be out of fuel!!! You can use pure gas, pure alcohol or a mix of both!

    • I was in Brazil for a conference many years ago and I was amazed at the smell of alcohol fuel burning in cars. A lot of alcohol powered VW beetles. Do you know here could I buy such a car?

  • Where are you supposed to get the electricty to recharge

  • The article is totally bogus on so many points. I’ve owned a home in Colorado with a 6.6kwh net metered array since 2013, 24 panels. The pitch is around 23 degrees so not optimal and the house is about 16 degrees east of due south. It produces around 11,000kwh/year, enough electricity to power my 3,200sqft 2 story with basement and run my Nissan Leaf for 8,000 miles per year while net metered and still leave a surplus of 2,000 kwh/yr. We have a gas forced air furnace and gas hot water. Start with energy efficiency measures and an islanding inverter with backup batteries to store the excess electricity generated during the peak of the day. I was driving the Leaf 18 miles a day round trip to work before COVID lockdowns and then remote wfh. So re-charging the car at night. In a bugout situation no one will be doing a daily drive so EV’s will be more reliable and can be slow charged to full range. Newer EV’s can also feed power to home or to run critical appliances like freezers and fridges, electric hot water and pumps, etc. there are ways to protect any car from an EMP as well as your solar array and home including all plugged in electrical devices. Start with a properly sized surge supressor to prevent damage from grid transmission. Do the research. There is cloth you can buy to drape over your car to protect from EMP or CME damage. Surge suppressors as well to protect your sensitive electronics. TRAPs that plug into 12v cigarette lighter plugs. Lots of things can be done to make your off grid electric bullet proof. Just research it.

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